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cleonjay

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« on: January 12, 2009, 03:14:50 PM »

Sugar Plum's "points" on her paws look a bit like Opera Gloves (all the way up past the elbow) rather than mittens/socks. Is there a standard or does it just vary per kitty? I always assumed it was more like mittens. How would you guys describe the points on your furbabies?
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Leyna

Posts: 27


« Reply #1 on: January 13, 2009, 03:49:40 PM »

The gene that causes the pointed coloring in himis and siamese cats is actually temperature sensitive.  When color pointed kittens are born, they are solid white, as their body is exposed to colder temperatures, their fur gradually starts to darken.  With time and exposure to cold temperatures color point cats can almost turn solid colored.

For example, I have a seal point siamese.  He's getting a little older and his whole face, arms/legs, and tail are black.  He's also starting to blacken up on his shoulders...
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Fultonblue

Posts: 967


« Reply #2 on: January 19, 2009, 06:26:58 PM »

Actually not all of them are solid white, seals tend to look more brown, blues more gray. The lighter colors cream, flame are white. lynx also tend to stay light colored longer.
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Linda
Fultonblue Persians & Himalayans
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If I want to hear the pitter patter of little feet... I'll put shoes on my cats!

Leyna

Posts: 27


« Reply #3 on: January 21, 2009, 02:21:07 PM »

I was just using white as a generic term, next time I'll just say 'soild pale color' lol.  You are correct though, I can tell what color most of my kittens will be the day they are born.  I love lining up my kittens when they are first born to see the difference in shades.
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Fultonblue

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« Reply #4 on: January 21, 2009, 06:54:00 PM »

I can't tell at first if one is going to be cream or flame...that usually takes a few weeks.
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Linda
Fultonblue Persians & Himalayans
www.Fultonblue.com

If I want to hear the pitter patter of little feet... I'll put shoes on my cats!

Leyna

Posts: 27


« Reply #5 on: January 23, 2009, 05:58:53 PM »

I don't have any pairs that will produce flame/cream points yet, so that's a battle I haven't had to face yet.  I know that I have a tough time with chocolates and blues and first.  They are born about the same shade and until their fur grows in look a lot a like...  My first litter of CP's was 4 kittens, 1 seal, 1 blue, 1 chocolate, and 1 lilac.  It was a great learning experience Smiley
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Fultonblue

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« Reply #6 on: January 23, 2009, 07:58:18 PM »

Oh more power to you!! I'm not going the chocolate/lilac route!
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Linda
Fultonblue Persians & Himalayans
www.Fultonblue.com

If I want to hear the pitter patter of little feet... I'll put shoes on my cats!

rfaulkner06

Posts: 177


« Reply #7 on: March 02, 2009, 11:19:44 AM »

I can see by reading in this site it takes a lot of practice to be able to distinguish the points or some colors. I was told once, that my female that was registered as a chocolate tortie point is actually a smoke point. Would i have to go back through CFA to get that corrected? Also, should I have them DNA tested for the coloring? I am not all that familiar with this like some of you are. I actually have had a small amount of time I have been reading on the forum and looking at reference points people have mentioned and am learning from it all. I was told that kittens eyes open in 10-14 days plus or minus. How many days should you wait before you get worried. My problem is my male mated with the female a whole week before I contained them so the kitty even though he is big, might actually be younger than the other one whos eyes are open. We have English Bulldog babies that the vet inseminated  about 4-5 days from the initial insemination date, the other breeders said it should have been the next day and we were lucky that the younger ones didn't die. So with them the eyes opening were different as well as their size compared to the bigger ones. Is this true of cats?
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