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 Post subject: Re: butter and cats
PostPosted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 11:39 pm 
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Treats usually have a lot of carbs in them (including sugar!) so her system is used to dealing with that. Good food for a cat has lots of protein and fats which take a whole different set of digestive juices to process. Some cats can handle a switch without problems, but since Talia is malnourished to begin with, it's harder on her system. This is why I suggested digestive enzymes, to help with transitioning. If she's off oral antibiotics, you might also try some yogurt to help replenish her digestive bacteria.

So, are you telling me she was only getting treats every other day??? That's horrible. :evil:I honestly can't believe what people will do to these precious creatures.

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 Post subject: Re: butter and cats
PostPosted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 11:44 pm 
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Yes, I e-mailed the girl after we got home from the vet trying to get a better history on her. The girl told me that Talia would not come out from under the couch so she was only eating treats about every other day. I as well was very angry. Also found out the her little boy terrorized Talia....which makes since why she is so quiet and afraid...but strangly not afraid of my dogs...and this girl had no dogs.


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 Post subject: Re: butter and cats
PostPosted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 11:48 pm 
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:evil::evil::evil:

BTW, how is Talia's weight doing?

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 Post subject: Re: butter and cats
PostPosted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 11:49 pm 
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she might have gained 1 or 2 ounces...but that is it....


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 Post subject: Re: butter and cats
PostPosted: Fri Jan 21, 2011 12:01 am 
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Butter can also be used as a laxative. That is what my holistic vet told me to give my old girl when she was sick and constipated, as it is a natural laxative. I believe you said Talia is not eating and drinking like she should. The worming meds may have put her off but she could also be dehydrated if she is not drinking, which would affect how she feels and she may not eat. Been down that road just last week :?Good luck

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 Post subject: Re: butter and cats
PostPosted: Fri Jan 21, 2011 12:04 am 
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I know that she has not ate today at all....just put a wet food down for her with some olive oil in it...she picked at it but did not really eat. suggestions?


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 Post subject: Re: butter and cats
PostPosted: Fri Jan 21, 2011 12:06 am 
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krysege wrote:
she might have gained 1 or 2 ounces...but that is it....


The worms probably were consuming most of the nutrients, so that could account for the lack of weight gain. Now that she's been treated for them, she should start to gain more weight. Ditto with any oral antibiotics.

I know you were giving her some Fancy Feast, but I still think some kitten food would be much better since it's higher in calories. Or high calorie vet food. Given her food history, any transition needs to be in the 3-4 day range and not overnight.

I don't know if you have a scale or not, so I'm going to assume you don't. When cats get very malnourished, they first lose weight in their back legs, then their back, then the front legs, and finally the internal systems. When a skinny cat begins to gain weight, they do it in the reverse order -- internal, front, middle, and back. So, if you are just looking at a cat, most of the weight gain initially will not be showing up since the cat is adding fat around internal organs or rebuilding digestive tissue. Once that is done (and in Maggie's case that was after 4-5 weeks!), then the front shoulders, ribs, and part of the spine begin to fill in. This will be the first visual clue of weight gain. Without a scale, it's hard to judge upto this point how much if any weight a cat has gained.

Before I bought my scale, I would go on how the cat was eating/pooping and the energy level. Remember, a malnourished cat won't be running around. It will sleep more than a normal cat because it is rebuilding its body from the inside out. At some point, Talia will play but not now.

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 Post subject: Re: butter and cats
PostPosted: Fri Jan 21, 2011 12:12 am 
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if I put my thumb and forefinger right above her hips and close them...my fingers almost touch. I will get her some good kitten food tomorrow....maybe call the vet and see if I can get her some high calorie paste.....


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 Post subject: Re: butter and cats
PostPosted: Fri Jan 21, 2011 12:25 am 
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Another thing would be NutriCal. It comes in a tube like toothpaste, but is a high energy 'food'. I try not to use it because it is high carbohydrate, but it is very concentrated and Talia would only have to eat a small amount. Normally cats will eat it without much coaxing since it's malt flavored, otherwise just put some on her paw. Most pet stores carry it as do feed stores and vet offices. Use this in addition to her regular food to add calories without much volume.

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 Post subject: Re: butter and cats
PostPosted: Fri Jan 21, 2011 1:13 pm 
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Actually I dont have a problem giving butter at all. Jasee will sometimes lick it and sometimes he doesn't care for it. Having dealt with severe constipation problems with him as a youngster, I tried everything. I found things that work and didn't work. Butter they say is a natural laxative, not sure if it worked but it can help and it's not as bad as you think. So if she likes it, I say why not let her have a few licks of it. Olive oil is also a good lubricant and is good for the liver.

Regarding Talia, I'm sorry to hear she isn't feeling well. You know if you say her poop is hard and she seems to be lethargic, she could be constipated also. I was just about to post a new post regarding the wonderful effects of Pumpkin. This is a great soluble fiber and works fast! It is the best natural treatment for constipation. I cured my Jasee of constipation issues while vets had him on stimulants and laxatives. It was alot of trial and error but we did it! During a vet visit the other day for fear of his drinking and urinating more (his test results came back excellent and he is 11 yrs old so I am so happy), the vet noticed he had stool in his colon and this may have been the cause for him pooping outside the box a few times. Constipation hasn't been a problem much in his adult life and since he eats raw he doesn't go as often as another cat may go. This was my best case scenario in what was wrong with him because I knew what to do. In addition to his regular raw and mix, I bought a can of pure pumpkin and put a teaspoon in his food. That day he went and he also went again yesterday. It is amazing and I will continue to use it daily again!

So give it a try for Talia, it is good for them and most love it because it is sweet! I hope she feels better soon!

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