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 Post subject: Re: Emily's stenotic nares surgery
PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2012 1:32 am 
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this is great news, I am so glad all went well and she is recovering , good news hugs for all :paw:

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 Post subject: Re: Emily's stenotic nares surgery
PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2012 5:43 am 
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Glad to hear her surgery went well!! Persia had the same one 1 week before we adopted her and still had her stitches in when we took her home. Apparently she snorted SO loudly and snored SUPER DUPER loud when she slept. I think snoring animals is so cute though - but now she sleeps peacefully and breathes well.

All these cats getting nose jobs ;) Maybe they need to all get together and have a kitty spa day! haha

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 Post subject: Re: Emily's stenotic nares surgery
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MarLo, yes the surgery was done with a laser and there are no stitches. Sorry that I didn't mention it, but I'll go back and edit my original post.

Cat, yes I know about the airport in Eugene. However, fares seem to be cheaper going in and out of the larger airports.

This morning, Emily is even more alert and has been eating and drinking well. Her little nose is still a bit swollen but she is breathing quietly. It is such a pleasure to not hear all that wheezing and gasping for breath.

This is a serious genetic fault and I hope that breeders go to great lengths to weed this particular fault out of their breeding programs. I would also like to see CFA and other associations stop rewarding breeding programs by not granding the kitties who have small nostrils. The entire thing just isn't fair to these kitties.

If we hadn't stepped in with Emily, I think she would have had serious health problems later in life.

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 Post subject: Re: Emily's stenotic nares surgery
PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2012 3:15 pm 
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MarLo, yes the surgery was done with a laser and there are no stitches. Sorry that I didn't mention it, but I'll go back and edit my original post.

Cat, yes I know about the airport in Eugene. However, fares seem to be cheaper going in and out of the larger airports.

This morning, Emily is even more alert and has been eating and drinking well. Her little nose is still a bit swollen but she is breathing quietly. It is such a pleasure to not hear all that wheezing and gasping for breath.

This is a serious genetic fault and I hope that breeders go to great lengths to weed this particular fault out of their breeding programs. I would also like to see CFA and other associations stop rewarding breeding programs by not granding the kitties who have small nostrils. The entire thing just isn't fair to these kitties.


If we hadn't stepped in with Emily, I think she would have had serious health problems later in life.



I am not a breeder but I have been told by many that any of the flat faced cats can have this, and not all with tiny noses have problems. Unless they go back to the doll faced Persians there will always be some with stenotic nares, it can happen to any breeder or line. From my understanding it is not just the size of the nostril that causes issues, the structure of the mouth, esophogus, and palette play into it also. Any of the flat faced animals could have it, dogs and cats alike. If I am wrong I hope some of the breeders will chip in.

I am glad she is doing well. Sparky played hard for the first time in her life after her surgery, now she still snorts and breathes through her mouth if I get her too wound up, but she recovers quickly and can breathe.
She has no more nose to trim, so she as good as she is gonna be, which is much better than she was. Lani gets lots of air through hers but still sniffles and snorts, I think it is the Herpes acting up.

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 Post subject: Re: Emily's stenotic nares surgery
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Cat, yes I know about the airport in Eugene. However, fares seem to be cheaper going in and out of the larger airports.


I did know this, however, by the time you rent a car and then drive 3 hours, it's worth it :)

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 Post subject: Re: Emily's stenotic nares surgery
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Haha! Cat, didn't you let it out that your sister would be happy to drive up to Portland and pick up anybody? :D

twokatz, according to Bonnie and Emily's breeder, small nares run in certain lines. Actually, she has tried to keep this fault out, but once in a while it rears it's ugly head again. As a matter of fact, there were 2 incidents of it in Emily's litter. She also mentioned that a lot of breeders don't think it is any big deal. However, from what I have seen (and I have had Persians for over 30 years), it IS a big deal and something that should be actively weeded out. BTW, she told me that she would not be repeating this particular breeding again....a wise move, I think.

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 Post subject: Re: Emily's stenotic nares surgery
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Haha! Cat, didn't you let it out that your sister would be happy to drive up to Portland and pick up anybody? :D


She probably would if you could actually find her in country, LOL. She returned from Viet Nam on Sunday @ midnight and left for Florida @ 4 am on Monday! No moss grows under her feet!

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 Post subject: Re: Emily's stenotic nares surgery
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This may be in Angel's future as well. I wish she would learn to open her mouth and pant. she makes all kinds of snorts and grunts. i think she partially exhails through her mouth as her little cheeks puff out and make sounds of escaping air. sometimes she also stops what she is doing and holds her head high with her nose in the air.


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 Post subject: Re: Emily's stenotic nares surgery
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I am glad to hear that Emily is doing well!!!!! She is such a little darling....

I hope that her breeder was willing to help with her surgery expenses!!!

And, yes you and your pictures of your beautiful girls were missed!!!!

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 Post subject: Re: Emily's stenotic nares surgery
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I'm so glad to hear Emily is doing well and thank you so much for answering my question. I really do wish I could have had Winston's nares done when he was very young and before he developed health probs.

I remember being told that Flat faced Persians (back then when I got Winston they were called UltraPersians) "all" had this problem and the doll face or 1950's style face/nose like Alaska did not. Tho at the time when I got Winston "ultra persians" were considered show worthy (barring all else was show standards) and Doll face like Alaska was not (even tho both my P's are pet quality vs. show Winston had show quality family members).


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