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 Post subject: Re: First Persian
PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2012 9:25 pm 
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Shannonlee718 wrote:
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She sounds teeny tiny, I would get her some Kitten Nutrical at Petsmart or Petco and start giving that to her to help her maintain and put on weight.

With the ringworm, please don't let your vet give her oral medication for it, it's terrible for them and she's far too tiny to risk giving it to her.

Hopefully the URI will be cleared up with antibiotics. :heart: Can't wait to see a picture of your baby :flower:

And welcome!! :heart:


Any reason why? they suggested that after she finished her first antibiotic. they were going to give her an anti-fungal medication.

Her eyes are almost a blueish green. I just made sure that she wasnt deaf, i think she has selective hearing but thats just me.


It is incredibly hard on their system and can damage the liver; it is called griseofulvin. My vet doesn't even prescribe it to adult cats because it is so dangerous. I suggest washing her with an antifungal shampoo 2 to 3 times a week and disinfecting ALL surfaces with a 1:10 bleach solution. Alcohol and other cleaners won't kill ringworm. It's a bit daunting, but once you get it under control things should be fine.

Here is some info on the medications below.. I would highly recommend not using it, particularly with her being so small. it also isn't going to take care of it any faster than an OTC anti-fungal cream will. I suggest using some holistic remedies as well.... Linda H... please chime in here!! :D

Puffy had ringworm as a baby and I bathed her with this for six months to keep it from coming back.. it smells really nice and I still use it on occasion.

http://www.amazon.com/Dr-Scholls-Dermaz ... B00076HSRU

Good luck, and please keep us updated! And give that sweet baby a giant kiss from me! :heart:



GRISEOFULVIN

This medication must be given with a fatty meal in order for an effective dose to be absorbed by the pet. Persian cats and young kittens are felt to be sensitive to its side effects which usually are limited to nausea but can include liver disease and serious white blood cell changes. Cats infected with the Feline Immunodeficiency Virus commonly develop life-threatening blood cell changes and should never be exposed to this medication. Despite the side effects, which can be severe for some individuals, Griseofulvin is still the traditional medication for the treatment of ringworm and is usually somewhat less expensive than itraconazole.

ITRACONAZOLE

This medication is highly effective in the treatment of ringworm but is available in capsules far too large to be useful to most small animals. This means that a special company called a compounding pharmacy must custom make the medication into a more useful size. Nausea is a potential side effect for this medication but probably the main reason it is passed by in favor of griseofulvin is expense. On the average, cats treated with itraconazole and nothing else were able to achieve cure two weeks sooner than cats treated with Griseofulvin.

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 Post subject: Re: First Persian
PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2012 9:36 pm 
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Greenish-blue eye color is the norm for a kitten of her age as her eye color is still developing. All Persian kittens' eyes are blue when they are babies but their adult eye color starts coming in when they are several weeks old. If she were a blue-eyed white her eyes would have remained blue in color. The greenish-blue color I'm seeing tells me she will have copper eyes as an adult.

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 Post subject: Re: First Persian
PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 1:19 am 
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PuffyPuffyPrincess wrote:
Shannonlee718 wrote:
PuffyPuffyPrincess wrote:
She sounds teeny tiny, I would get her some Kitten Nutrical at Petsmart or Petco and start giving that to her to help her maintain and put on weight.

With the ringworm, please don't let your vet give her oral medication for it, it's terrible for them and she's far too tiny to risk giving it to her.

Hopefully the URI will be cleared up with antibiotics. :heart: Can't wait to see a picture of your baby :flower:

And welcome!! :heart:


Any reason why? they suggested that after she finished her first antibiotic. they were going to give her an anti-fungal medication.

Her eyes are almost a blueish green. I just made sure that she wasnt deaf, i think she has selective hearing but thats just me.


It is incredibly hard on their system and can damage the liver; it is called griseofulvin. My vet doesn't even prescribe it to adult cats because it is so dangerous. I suggest washing her with an antifungal shampoo 2 to 3 times a week and disinfecting ALL surfaces with a 1:10 bleach solution. Alcohol and other cleaners won't kill ringworm. It's a bit daunting, but once you get it under control things should be fine.

Here is some info on the medications below.. I would highly recommend not using it, particularly with her being so small. it also isn't going to take care of it any faster than an OTC anti-fungal cream will. I suggest using some holistic remedies as well.... Linda H... please chime in here!! :D

Puffy had ringworm as a baby and I bathed her with this for six months to keep it from coming back.. it smells really nice and I still use it on occasion.

http://www.amazon.com/Dr-Scholls-Dermaz ... B00076HSRU

Good luck, and please keep us updated! And give that sweet baby a giant kiss from me! :heart:



GRISEOFULVIN

This medication must be given with a fatty meal in order for an effective dose to be absorbed by the pet. Persian cats and young kittens are felt to be sensitive to its side effects which usually are limited to nausea but can include liver disease and serious white blood cell changes. Cats infected with the Feline Immunodeficiency Virus commonly develop life-threatening blood cell changes and should never be exposed to this medication. Despite the side effects, which can be severe for some individuals, Griseofulvin is still the traditional medication for the treatment of ringworm and is usually somewhat less expensive than itraconazole.

ITRACONAZOLE

This medication is highly effective in the treatment of ringworm but is available in capsules far too large to be useful to most small animals. This means that a special company called a compounding pharmacy must custom make the medication into a more useful size. Nausea is a potential side effect for this medication but probably the main reason it is passed by in favor of griseofulvin is expense. On the average, cats treated with itraconazole and nothing else were able to achieve cure two weeks sooner than cats treated with Griseofulvin.



AHH omg i couldnt even imagine putting alcohol!! i will give the Dr. Scholls a try! is their any place that you can get that other than Amazon, wanted something soon. we do have a family owned pet supply store that may....will try after work tomorrow. came home after her first antibiotic treatment, vet warned me she may be sick but she seems good!! YEAAA!

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 Post subject: Re: First Persian
PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 1:22 am 
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I will definitely keep everyone updated!! Thank you everyone for your support and helpful advice!!

here are some pics!!

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 Post subject: Re: First Persian
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Hi and welcome!

The diarrhea -- there's 3 possible causes that seem relevant here. First, antibiotics give many cats diarrhea. If she has an URI and is on antibiotics, is it Clavamox or something else? If it's clavamox, the dose for her size should be 0.2ml twice daily. Most vets do a "one size fits all" and perscribe too much, which will guarantee diarrhea. Two, the diarrhea could be associated with the URI. Many kitty colds do cause a gastric problem or two. Three, it could be stress and all the changes, but that should resolve itself in 24 hours and not be ongoing.

The 'ringworm' -- without a culture for ringworm, I wouldn't consider treating her for it, even with alternative methods. Not all red, flaky spots on a kitten are caused by ringworm. Have the vet do a culture first before doing anything about the ringworm. Ringworm is not a life-and-death problem. Once it's confirmed, as Kira said, DO NOT use griseofulvin. My vet also will not prescribe that for ringworm at all! Besides the Dr. Scholl's shampoo, there are a number of other medicated shampoos for rignworm -- all with a sulfur compound in them. You can even use diluted Selsun Blue shampoo (diluted down to 1 shampoo to 4 water) and let it soak on her for 5-10 minutes before rinsing. There are a number of holistic treatments which work quickly -- the best is goldenseal extract on the infected skin. (One problem is that goldenseal will dye the hair yellow at least temporarily.)

Forgot to add -- she's a cutey!!!

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 Post subject: Re: First Persian
PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 3:45 am 
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She is SOOO cute!

I love that last pic :heart:

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 Post subject: Re: First Persian
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Hi Shannon, welcome. You will find a lot of very helpful and loving people here. Your baby is so sweet.

I too am from the Pittsburgh area, about 20 miles north from the city via Rt. 28.

Good luck with the health issues that you are dealing with right now and keep the pictures coming.

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 Post subject: Re: First Persian
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Thanks again everyone. And to the last pic....she got into the fireplace at the breeders the DAY i went to get her! shes a little trouble maker!!

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 Post subject: Re: First Persian
PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 3:24 pm 
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LindaH wrote:
Besides the Dr. Scholl's shampoo, there are a number of other medicated shampoos for rignworm -- all with a sulfur compound in them. You can even use diluted Selsun Blue shampoo (diluted down to 1 shampoo to 4 water) and let it soak on her for 5-10 minutes before rinsing.


Just wanted to add something about this... If you let it soak on her, I recommend wrapping her up in a towel and holding her for the 5-10 minutes to keep her warm, otherwise she will catch a chill. This is what I did with PUffy. :heart: HUGS :flower:

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 Post subject: Re: First Persian
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PuffyPuffyPrincess wrote:
She sounds teeny tiny, I would get her some Kitten Nutrical at Petsmart or Petco and start giving that to her to help her maintain and put on weight.

With the ringworm, please don't let your vet give her oral medication for it, it's terrible for them and she's far too tiny to risk giving it to her.

It is incredibly hard on their system and can damage the liver; it is called griseofulvin. My vet doesn't even prescribe it to adult cats because it is so dangerous. I suggest washing her with an antifungal shampoo 2 to 3 times a week and disinfecting ALL surfaces with a 1:10 bleach solution. Alcohol and other cleaners won't kill ringworm. It's a bit daunting, but once you get it under control things should be fine.

Here is some info on the medications below.. I would highly recommend not using it, particularly with her being so small. it also isn't going to take care of it any faster than an OTC anti-fungal cream will. I suggest using some holistic remedies as well.... Linda H... please chime in here!! :D

Puffy had ringworm as a baby and I bathed her with this for six months to keep it from coming back.. it smells really nice and I still use it on occasion.

http://www.amazon.com/Dr-Scholls-Dermaz ... B00076HSRU

Good luck, and please keep us updated! And give that sweet baby a giant kiss from me! :heart:



GRISEOFULVIN

This medication must be given with a fatty meal in order for an effective dose to be absorbed by the pet. Persian cats and young kittens are felt to be sensitive to its side effects which usually are limited to nausea but can include liver disease and serious white blood cell changes. Cats infected with the Feline Immunodeficiency Virus commonly develop life-threatening blood cell changes and should never be exposed to this medication. Despite the side effects, which can be severe for some individuals, Griseofulvin is still the traditional medication for the treatment of ringworm and is usually somewhat less expensive than itraconazole.

ITRACONAZOLE

This medication is highly effective in the treatment of ringworm but is available in capsules far too large to be useful to most small animals. This means that a special company called a compounding pharmacy must custom make the medication into a more useful size. Nausea is a potential side effect for this medication but probably the main reason it is passed by in favor of griseofulvin is expense. On the average, cats treated with itraconazole and nothing else were able to achieve cure two weeks sooner than cats treated with Griseofulvin.



AHH omg i couldnt even imagine putting alcohol!! i will give the Dr. Scholls a try! is their any place that you can get that other than Amazon, wanted something soon. we do have a family owned pet supply store that may....will try after work tomorrow. came home after her first antibiotic treatment, vet warned me she may be sick but she seems good!! YEAAA!


Actually Itraconazole (Spornox) is actually very safe for kittens age 8 weeks and up and doesn't necessarily need to be compounded as they will eat it most of the time from baby food...but with that said it is safer to have it compounded. But absolutly do not use GRISEOFULVIN because it will damage the liver...and routine bloodwork will need to be done to keep up on liver function. Another medication is Fluconazol (Diflucan)...this is also safe but not always as effective. My suggestion is the Spornox AND keeping the kitten bathed in an antifungal shampoo and holding the kitten as Kira suggested; wrapped in a towel for about 10 minutes. I have heard the Dermazole shampoo is a good one. Baths should be done once a week minimal while treating...and keeping the enviornment clean is another important aspect as well.

Oh her eye color...she could be a BEW because I have had a few Himies with eye color that was not recognizable as "blue"...take Seri from my last litter...her eye color looked like moss on a stump...awful and so NOT blue...but as a Himalayan...you know it was "supposed" to be blue ;) ...LOL

Sounds to me like she is in great hands -- so happy you love her so and she is darling. Please keep us posted on how she is doing!

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